OTHER VARIOUS TRINITARIAN “PROOF TEXTS” THAT DON’T PROVE ANYTHING  


 Chapter 10
  
     SOME PROBLEMS IF JESUS IS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD

     Extracting scriptures from its context to try to prove the trinitarian doctrine actually displays the loss of reasoning skills among its advocates because this doctrine so blinds people from the whole truth. I know, I was one of them!

     In the previous chapter we spoke of angels as God’s agents. A former friend of mine (who discontinued our friendship because I no longer believed the trinity teaching) tries to prove that the angel of the LORD is really the supposed “pre-incarnate” form of Jesus who she says is God, and therefore it explains why no one died when they looked at God! She states:

We must determine from context whether the word refers to the office of the sent
one or to the nature of angels. We must also check if it says “AN angel of the Lord or
“THE angel of the Lord” to determine whether there is a particular angel spoken about.
The angel of the Lord seems to be a pre-incarnate form of Jesus (who is God and part
of the trinity), and that could explain why people have in fact seen God without dying.

     Note the words “seems” and “could explain,” which essentially means, “I don’t know for sure.”

     If THE angel of the Lord is supposedly the pre-incarnate form of Jesus (who she says is God), then who is THE angel of the Lord in the following verses:

But while he thought on these things, behold, THE angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. (Matt. 1:20-21)
      Is THE angel of the Lord (who she says is Jesus) in the womb of Mary and talking with Joseph at the same time?  

     What about the following verses:

And, lo, THE angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. (Luke 2:9-11)

     If Jesus is “THE angel of the Lord,” is this angel announcing his own birth? Are we really to believe that Jesus, as the angel, is really in two places at the same time? Jesus, as the angel, is with the shepherds in the field and at the same time in the city of David wrapped in swaddling clothes in a manger?

     What about AN angel of the Lord?

Now when they had departed, behold, AN angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Rise, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.” (Matt. 2:13)

     An angel of the Lord appears to Joseph in a dream and yet at the same time, AN angel of the Lord is the young child? How can that be? Please explain.

But when Herod was dead, behold, AN angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land  of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child’s life. (Matt. 2:19-20)
     
     Is there really a difference here between AN angel of the Lord and THE angel of the Lord? Why? What determines the difference? What we still have is an “angel,” period.

      What do we have the day of the resurrection of Jesus? Is he still the angel or an angel of the Lord?

Neither the disciples nor any human being physically saw God, but they did have a mental perception of God’s character by looking at Jesus. In this sense, to see Jesus was to see the Father, just not literally.

 
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