Most churches argue for the
literal pre-existence of Jesus. Pre-existence is defined as:
“existence in a former state or previous to something else.”
However, where it concerns Christ, it is regularly taught that Jesus
literally
pre-existed as the second person of the triune God before he became a
man in the flesh. However, there is a vast difference when we have
the Hebrew
understanding of
“pre-existence” vs. the influence of Greek
culture of a “literal
physical pre-existence.” To believe the literal physical
pre-existence of Jesus is to abandon
the Jewish
concept of
pre-existence.
You
might be thinking at this point, “Well, what is the Jewish concept
of pre-existence?” I will give you a few examples. The first
example can be taken from John 17:5 where Jesus says:
Now, Father, glorify me together
with Yourself, with the glory which
I had with You before the world was.
This
is supposed to prove that Jesus literally
existed with God
before he became a human being here on earth. Unfortunately, the
context is ignored. The context shows us where Jesus gives this same
glory to future
believers who are not yet alive (v. 22):
I do not ask on behalf of these
alone, but for those also who believe in me through their word...The
glory which You have given me I have
given [past tense] to
them.
If
we were to remain consistent with interpretation that promotes a
literal pre-existence, then we would have to conclude we also
pre-existed!
The
passage does not establish Jesus pre-existed. Jesus was glorified
when he was raised from the dead, and he speaks of it as
if he already has it.
If we go back to John 7:39 we read:
Now this he said about the
Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet
the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not
yet glorified.
In
Luke 24:26 we read:
Did not the Messiah have to
suffer these things and then enter
his glory?
But
here in John 17:5, Jesus speaks of his glorification as
though he already has it.
In addition, we saw that Jesus has given (past tense) this same
glory to his disciple
and future disciples who end up believing through their word.
Therefore, the glory Jesus had “before the world was,” has to do
with God’s purpose
that is assured to be fulfilled.
We
can have something, in Jewish ways of thinking, “with God,”
meaning that it is planned and promised for the future. John 17:5
means that Jesus desired that God give him the glory which he had
stored up in God’s plan for the future.
Another
example can be taken from 2 Cor. 5:1:
For we know that if our
temporary, earthly dwelling is destroyed, we
have a building from
God, an eternal dwelling in the heavens, not made with hands.
None
of us would think that we already have
an eternal body in heaven. One may talk themselves into believing
that they are literally up in the heavens, but it does not make it
so. Like Jesus, we have
it in God’s promise.
One day we will have a glorified body given to us at the resurrection
when Jesus returns even though scripture says we have
it now. We have it in
the sense that we
possess it in God’s promise.
The
apostle Paul is known as the “Hebrew of Hebrews” and was not void
of the Hebraic concept
of pre-existence. He
states in Romans 4:17:
As it is written, “I have made
you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in
whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and CALL INTO EXISTENCE
THE THINGS THAT DO NOT EXIST.
What
Paul says here provides the strongest evidence that supports the
traditional Hebraic concept and meaning of pre-existence in his
description as God who calls those things that do not exist as though
they did. It is not a literal
pre-existence but has
everything to do with God’s promises that are assured to come to
pass.
For
those who promote a literal pre-existence, what do they do with the
book of Revelation where it says:
And all that dwell upon the earth
shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of
the Lamb [The Messiah] SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. (Rev.
13:8)
For
those who uphold a literal pre-existence, this would mean Christ was
slain twice! The Messiah did not literally exist until he was born.
Another
major proof text to try to prove the literal pre-existence of Jesus
is John 1:1. It is also worth noting the blatant bias by capitalizing
the W for word:
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
How
can we have “the word was WITH
God, and then say, “the word WAS
God?” The word
“with” means “accompanied by.” If the “word” is supposed
to be Jesus, it should read like this:
In the beginning was the Son, and
the Son was with God and the Son was God.
“The
Son was with
God and the Son was
God?” This is a classic example of eisegesis.
Jesus (Son) is read into the text
when it does not
mention him at all. The word “word” is “logos” in the Greek.
Lexical
definitions for the Greek word logos
are:
-
utterance
-
statement
-
question
-
proclamation
-
command
-
revelation
-
decree
-
plan
-
expression
of the mind
-
creative
thought
-
purpose
-
promise
-
reason
This is not an exhaustive list,
but you will notice that nowhere is the “word” (“logos”) ever
referred to as a person distinct from the Father.
The
word
has to do with God’s utterance, his plan, his creative power. It
was the logos which
was in the beginning with God; it does not say it was Christ.
Everyone
is thankful to William Tyndale for giving us our first English
translation of the bible based upon the Hebrew and Greek text. His
New Testament was published in 1526 and revised to its final state in
1534. However, William Tyndale would probably be considered a heretic
for translating John 1:3-4 as:
In the beginning was the word and
the word was with God and the word was God. All things came into
being through IT, and
without IT nothing
was made that was made.
When
I presented this to my friend she got upset and said, “So God is
now an it!
Tyndale
used “it” rather than “him” and so does the Matthew’s
Bible of 1537, the
Great Bible of 1539,
the Geneva Bible
of 1560, and the Bishop’s
Bible of 1568, which
she probably did not realize. From what I understand, “it” is a
translation of the Greek “autou” meaning “he, she, or it.”
Since Tyndale did not read Jesus the Messiah into the “logos,” it
shows he was not influenced by the Latin Vulgate of Jerome.
God
(Yahweh) spoke creation into existence. If you read Genesis chapter
1, note how many times we read, “God
said.”
I
recently read where someone argued that the “beginning” in John
1:1 refers to the beginning of Christ’s
ministry, and to
support this interpretation he used the passage in 1 John 1:1.
However, the Gospel of John in chapter 1 is drawing from Genesis 1 as
we can see by verse 3, which refers to God and not Christ.
Now,
in the last part of the verse we read:
and the word was God.
This
is where we see that the “word”
belongs to the sphere of God;
it is not a separate being from God. We do not separate the word from
the person. We can see samples of this In Psalm 33:6:
By the word
of the LORD were the
heavens made; and all the host of them by the
breath of his mouth.
(Ps. 33:6)
For he
spake, and it was
done; he commanded, and it stood fast. (Ps. 33: 9)
…so shall my
word be that goes out
from my mouth; it
shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I
purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it. (Isa.
55:11; see also Ps. 107:20; 147:15, 18, 19)
We
cannot separate the word from God. The word
was fully representative of God, “the word was God.” Author Chuck
LaMattina has well stated that John 1:1-3 could accurately be
paraphrased like this:
In the beginning God had a
creative and redemptive plan. And this plan or purpose revealed his
heart and was fully representative of all that God is. All things
were made through this plan and without this divine plan nothing was
made.8
Just like an architect sketches the blueprint of a building on a
paper roll, it's only when the construction phase begins that the
building materializes into existence. So too, it is not until we get to John 1:14 that this plan became a
reality. This plan becomes a living-breathing human being revealed in
the promise, by God, of the coming Messiah for God’s people. This
was done by the holy spirit overshadowing the virgin Mary that
resulted in a unique pregnancy.
So
though the Jewish concept believes in the pre-existence of the
Messiah, they did not
believe it as a literal
physical pre-existence,
but rather it had to do with the plan
and mind of God, which
always included the coming Messiah.
“Sent” Does Not Mean
Dropping Out Of The Sky
There
is another passage used to try to prove the literal pre-existence of
Jesus. When trying to uphold the trinity teaching, we will often
muddle the meaning of simple words by redefining them. For instance,
take the word “sent.” Scripture states that Jesus was “sent
into the world” by God (Jn. 10:36). This is supposed to prove he
existed as the divine Son of God before he came into the world.
Now,
if we are to stay consistent with the trinity teaching and its
interpretation, we must also conclude that John the Baptist also
pre-existed prior to his birth for we read:
There was a man sent
from God, whose name
was John. (John 1:6)
Being
“sent” or “sent into this world” does not mean a spirit being
dropped from outer space into a woman’s womb.
Jesus
also said:
For the bread of God is he who
comes down from heaven and gives life to the world. (John 6:33)
And:
I am the living bread that came
down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever.
And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my
flesh.” (John 6:51)
Did
Jesus come down as literal bread from heaven? Also, if Jesus was a
literal person on this earth, then he existed in the flesh
up there in heaven prior to his birth! Yes, it is absurd if we must
think this way.
Jesus
said in John 8:42:
If God were your Father, you
would love me, for I came
from God and I am
here. I came not of my own accord, but he
sent me.
Think about it. If Jesus is
God, how can he “come from God” and be “sent by God?”
In
John 3:13 we read:
No one has ever gone into heaven
except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
Many
read these passages and think of literal pre-existence. The
Biblicalunitarian Websites states accurately:
The Jews would not have taken
John’s words to mean that Christ “incarnated.” It was common
for them to say that something “came from heaven” if God were its
source. For example, James 1:17 says that every good gift is “from
above” and “comes down” from God. What James means is clear.
God is the Author and source of the good things in our lives. God
works behind the scenes to provide what we need. The verse does not
mean that the good things in our lives come directly down from
heaven. Most Christians experience the Lord blessing them by way of
other people or events, but realize that the ultimate source of the
blessings was the Lord. We should apply John’s words the same way
we understand James’ words—that God is the source of Jesus
Christ, which He was. Christ was God’s plan, and then God directly
fathered Jesus.
There are also verses that say
Jesus was “sent from God,” a phrase that shows God as the
ultimate source of what is sent. John the Baptist was a man “sent
from God” (John 1:6), and it was he who said that Jesus “comes
from above” and “comes from heaven” (John 3:31). When God
wanted to tell the people that He would bless them if they gave their
tithes, He told them that He would open the windows of “heaven”
and pour out a blessing (Mal. 3:10 – KJV). Of course, everyone
understood the idiom being used, and no one believed that God would
literally pour things out of heaven. They knew that the phrase meant
that God was the origin of the blessings they received. Still another
example is when Christ was speaking and said, “John’s
baptism—where did it come from? Was it from heaven or from men?”
(Matt. 21:25). Of course, the way that John’s baptism would have
been “from heaven” was if God was the source of the revelation.
John did not get the idea on his own, it came “from heaven.” The
verse makes the idiom clear: things could be “from heaven,” i.e.,
from God, or they could be “from men.” The idiom is the same when
used of Jesus. Jesus is “from God,” “from heaven” or “from
above” in the sense that God is his Father and thus his origin.
The idea of coming from God or
being sent by God is also clarified by Jesus’ words in John 17. He
said, “As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the
world” (John 17:18). We understand perfectly what Christ meant when
he said, “I have sent them into the world.” He meant that he
commissioned us, or appointed us. No one thinks that we were in
heaven with Christ and incarnated into the flesh. Christ said, “As
you have sent me, I have sent them.” So, however we take the phrase
that Christ sent us, that is how we should understand the phrase that
God sent Christ.9
Dear
reader, as you search these verses10
in the footnote, you will begin to understand that “sent,” “sent
from God,” or “send” does not prove that Jesus the Messiah
literally came down from heaven and is God. Jesus “sends” his
disciple in the same manner as the Father sent
him into the world (John 20:21).
It
is unfortunate that most churches abandon and conceal the true
Hebraic concept of pre-existence. This leaves the sincere Christians
in ignorance of Jewish understanding of the New Testament, especially
in the Gospel of John. The New Testament was written by Jews. Could
it be that the suppression of the Jewish ways of understanding the
scriptures damage the orthodox
dogmas that have
developed over the centuries?
We
have seen that the term “logos” has many definitions that are
more understandable and logical than the biased rendering of the
“Word” as it is defined and upheld in mainstream orthodox
Christianity to this day.
It
is crucial that we understand scripture from within its context of
what was written because the authors, who were Jews, wrote within a
Hebraic framework. Therefore, it is critical to interpret the bible
with this in mind. The prime example is the Gospel of John where most
trinitarian teaching is drawn from that abandons the Hebraic mindset
of the New Testament authors. When this happens, the outcome has many
disastrous interpretations, the use of nonsensical language, and
definitions that end up having to be explained by analogies to try to
get the listener to understand a doctrine that is said to be
incomprehensible by many who embrace the doctrine of the trinity. The
Gospel of John ends up grossly misinterpreted and distorted because
of the failure to apply the proper context and its interpretation
within the Judaic mindset.
Traditional
Christian theologians who choose to conceal, whether ignorantly or
deliberately, the Hebraic
concept of pre-existence,
gives birth to students who end up believing in either a
“Triune God” or in some
cases, a “Biune God.” In either case, it erroneously teaches that
Christ is God Almighty.
How
unfortunate to have gone down this path that has led to much
dissension, controversy, debate, and even believers of the truth
being put to torturous death over the centuries. This perversion of
the truth began at least one hundred years after the death and
resurrection of Christ when false doctrines began to infiltrate and
plagued the church. All because church leaders has abandoned the
Hebraic understanding
of scriptures and have clung to the influences of Greek
philosophy (also known
as “Hellenism”).
The
idea of pre-existence would have us believe that Jesus was really
alive and conscious in heaven and active in the affairs of the Old
Testament patriarchs before his birth in
Bethlehem, is
a
deception. Jesus is
and has always been authentically a human being like us.
He
was not an angel who became a man or some spirit being who entered
Mary’s womb and became a man, nor an eternal Son of God who gave up
his heavenly realm to come to earth and become a man, or the third
part of a “godhead” that made a conscious decision to come to
earth.
I would also like to add a note
that some of the brethren would consider it blasphemy to call Jesus a
man,
and therefore
just a mere man.
They like to give their spin by asking, “So you think Jesus was
just a mere
man
or only
a
man?”
Well, let me ask, “Was Jesus anything other than a man?” No. He
was a human being just as we are a human being. Certainly, he is a
unique
human being by the fact that he was directly begotten by the Father
and not through the normal process of procreating. He is just as
human as Adam was human. The scriptures never fail to emphasize how
much Jesus is like us in every respect to his being. If Jesus is
something else, then he cannot rightly be called a man. Jesus himself
said he was a man and referred to himself as the son
of man.
In 1Tim. 2:5, Jesus is called a man.
Everything about him was human. The only reason to mock the brethren
who believe Jesus was a human being like the rest of us is that they
hold to the belief that God
became a man
and therefore had two
natures
that made him fully
man and fully God.
That is why they have the problem of thinking of Jesus as a man, a
human being like the rest of us. Until they can prove from scripture
that teaches Jesus was ontologically different from his brethren,
then they might have my ear.
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